What spells do we need at times when the conditions we live in form a curse that often seems impossible to break? In a conversation featuring Alexandra Borys, Mike Dittrich Frydetzki and Stefanie Wenner we reflect relationship between artistic work and spellcasting, attempt to grasp the impact of more-than-human presences on our being in the world, and to see the language as potentially powerful performative tool. The meeting was recorded during the last gathering of Breaking the Spell, in Viernulvier in Ghent in March 2023.

The podcast was created as a harvesting of the Breaking the Spell project curator of the project: Marta Keil concept of the podcast: Zuzanna Berendt, Marta Keil, Anna Majewska podcast hosts: Zuzanna Berendt, Anna Majewska moderation of the conversation: Zuzanna Berendt, Marta Keil conversers: Aleksandra Borys, Mike Dittrich Frydetzki, Stefanie Wenner sound contributionsMartina Hefter, Georgia Ohanesian Nardin, Ingrid Vranken editing: Ola Kuzemko music: Pavla Bastlová (Tokyo Drift)